We're currently in the process of testing out the Agile Octopus charge slot integration. Anyone who's interested to test this, please let us know and DM your Gmail e-mail address associated with your login so we can enable this on your account.

Thanks @"Aethos"#60 - should be enabled now. I've masked your e-mail out in the public forum. :-)

Can you tell us about it first, so I know how you're going to charge the battery under what circumstances... For instance, I would suspect per half hour depending on the price of the input at that time, charging at the lowest prices during the day and making sure there is enough charge in battery for the peak time. That means charging perhaps many times during the day to get the absolute lowest tariffs. Here are my tariffs for today for example... bold are possible charge times... **00:00 - 00:30 14.43p/kWh** 00:30 - 01:00 16.51p/kWh **01:00 - 01:30 15.54p/kWh 01:30 - 02:00 14.68p/kWh 02:00 - 02:30 15.48p/kWh 02:30 - 03:00 14.51p/kWh 03:00 - 03:30 15.56p/kWh 03:30 - 04:00 14.74p/kWh 04:00 - 04:30 15.56p/kWh 04:30 - 05:00 14.7p/kWh 05:00 - 05:30 15.54p/kWh 05:30 - 06:00 15.75p/kWh** 06:00 - 06:30 17.81p/kWh 06:30 - 07:00 21.42p/kWh 07:00 - 07:30 22.34p/kWh 07:30 - 08:00 24.7p/kWh 08:00 - 08:30 19.32p/kWh 08:30 - 09:00 22.68p/kWh 09:00 - 09:30 21.44p/kWh 09:30 - 10:00 20.6p/kWh 10:00 - 10:30 20.16p/kWh 10:30 - 11:00 19.36p/kWh 11:00 - 11:30 18.04p/kWh 11:30 - 12:00 18.14p/kWh 12:00 - 12:30 19.43p/kWh 12:30 - 13:00 17.66p/kWh 13:00 - 13:30 19.38p/kWh 13:30 - 14:00 18.06p/kWh 14:00 - 14:30 20.83p/kWh 14:30 - 15:00 20.29p/kWh 15:00 - 15:30 19.3p/kWh 15:30 - 16:00 22.49p/kWh 16:00 - 16:30 35.55p/kWh 16:30 - 17:00 39.9p/kWh 17:00 - 17:30 38.6p/kWh 17:30 - 18:00 39.38p/kWh 18:00 - 18:30 38.56p/kWh 18:30 - 19:00 35.87p/kWh 19:00 - 19:30 22.05p/kWh 19:30 - 20:00 21.04p/kWh 20:00 - 20:30 21.17p/kWh 20:30 - 21:00 18.92p/kWh 21:00 - 21:30 18.82p/kWh 21:30 - 22:00 17.7p/kWh **22:00 - 22:30 16.8p/kWh 22:30 - 23:00 14.76p/kWh**

Today because my battery level is so low, I topped up the battery during this period too... 12:30 - 13:00 17.66p/kWh 13:00 - 13:30 19.38p/kWh 13:30 - 14:00 18.06p/kWh

@"Gazzagreen"#p635 Sure, no problem. Basically, during your specified window here: [URL=https://i.imgur.com/JIIZARb.png][IMG]https://i.imgur.com/JIIZARbh.png[/IMG][/URL] Wonder Watt will based on those settings determine and pre-select the cheapest number of half hour slots for the next day when they become available. That will then look something like this - the reason they're greyed out is because the time is in the past: [URL=https://i.imgur.com/U5CcBmX.png][IMG]https://i.imgur.com/U5CcBmXh.png[/IMG][/URL] Which means 4 separate charge slots would be sent to the inverter prior to the start time of each of those 4 contiguous blocks. You can also easily select and deselect slots and Save your changes for scheduling. Does that make sense?

@"Gazzagreen"#p636 Yeah, I still have the option to add slots too by simply selecting them and Saving. See: [URL=https://i.imgur.com/SLUlTIR.png][IMG]https://i.imgur.com/SLUlTIRh.png[/IMG][/URL]

Is there anyway we can set the max charging percentage for the Agile Tariff charging settings?

@"TomKatt1993"#p672 Not currently, I guess it would be max percentage configured against the each Charge Window? Your target for 00:00-06:00 might be 80%, but for 11:00-15:30 100%?

@"admin"#p624 please enable this for my account ------@gmail.com

@"Rob2563"#p691 Thanks Rob - all sorted for you, Agile Octopus enabled on your account.

Agile Octopus integration

admin

Mat Did you have any slots selected (or WW had) already? Or change the value to 9.8p after slots had been pre-selected by WW?

That probably explained why the slots were not touched, going forward this should be applied when the new rates are available.

You highlight a good point though, we probably should go through the slots and apply that rule anyway, and add the ones that meet the criteria.

Mat

admin I had nothing selected prior to changing the min to 9.8p as I do ad hoc charging everyday. The selection of individual 'tiles' worked well for me the other day but I thought I'd give the min pence thing a try so I could leave a value set and potentially leave it

admin

Mat Ah, sorry - yeah, right you don't have an Agile Charge window configured.

We'll get a fix out.

In fact, the better work around for your scenario is to configure any Agile Charge window eg. 00:00 and 01:00 and choose a number of 0 charge slots (we currently require it to be at least 1).

That way, the window will be looked at and the pricing rules you configured will be applied.

We will update the validation rule to allow this.

Mat

admin I assumed the charge window would cause a charge regardless of any other factors

admin

Mat Not if we allow you to select 'number of slots' to be 0.

admin

Mat This is now doable if you configure an active Agile charge window with 0 slots to fill. It will not select any regular 'lowest cheap slots', but the rule for 30 min slots below the pence value specified in Advanced settings will kick in.

kerregan

admin
I was thinking of self-consumption rather than export. Imagine for example I have a fully charged battery at noon, and no solar generation expected. I would rather consume from the grid until 16.30 and only use my battery after that time, when import is at its peak rate. This requires charging to be maintained from noon till 16.30 to prevent earlier discharge.

Another way of looking at it is that I should be charging my battery (or maintaining it at 100%) in any slot where the import rate is lower than in the immediately subsequent slot (with caveats for expected solar generation and for expected consumption during the subsequent slots).

admin

kerregan Right, cool - so a "hold charge" for the gapped 30 min "non-charge" slots in your Agile charge window would do the job?

Mat

kerregan I think that's a great suggestion as currently, if we're not charging from the grid, we are using our battery to run the home even if the half hr prices are on a par with what we chose to charge our battery. I would like to see something like a value we can set which automatically kicks the battery into supplying the house, for example over 25p. Failing that facility, a timed period would be a good compromise

kerregan

admin
‘Hold charge’ is a good way of thinking about it, and hopefully something that would be relatively straightforward to implement.

It could though get more complicated over time 😀😀. For example, I have just seen an earlier discussion which suggested being able to charge up to and hold a specified % of battery capacity - chosen to cover expected consumption over a peak period.

kerregan

admin
Another twist on this. Last night I was due to charge from 4.30 to 7.00. But because the battery was already 95% full, this slot was skipped. The effect was that the battery discharged in this low cost period rather than being preserved until after 7.00 when the rate is higher.

‘Hold charge’ would be much better than skipping the slot altogether.

Gazzagreen

I like the hold charge idea, but stress to everyone not to rely on automation too much, every morning you need to check what slots are needed for the circumstances and check yourself throughout the day how your battery is holding out. Depending on the weather etc. If you rely on Automation you will get knock backs more often than not, at least until human like AI comes into it.

The more code you add, the more things can and will go wrong.

kerregan

Gazzagreen

That’s true in the short term, whilst the users are enthusiasts. But the mass market needs a fully automatic solution, accepting that it will not be 100% optimised.

Mat

admin I can't set a charge window without the message at the bottom of the page coming up, as shown in the attached photo

admin

Reload the whole page, and use 01:00 in the To slot instead of 1.00.

Shouldn’t cause an error like this though. We’ll check the logs.

Thanks for reporting it.

Mat

admin still doing the same with 01.00

admin

Mat can you refresh and use a colon instead of a dot/period?

Right - I think I know what's happening - correct time validation not being applied there. Reload and use 01:00 and you should be good.

Needs a proper validation message like on normal schedules.

Fixed as per release 339. https://community.wonderwatt.com/d/96-wonder-watt-release-notes

Mat

admin I entered 01:00 as the end time and 0 slots as you said and it allowed this. When I scholled down, slots had been allocated under the 9.8p I'd set for my max. Success! Thanks.

Jeff

Was there any issues last night? A big block of charge for me from 0330 to 0600 was missed. It correctly charged a couple of earlier half hour slots and the activity log says a charge instruction was set but it didn't charge?

Is it because the charge instruction was sent after the slot had started?

Pourl

Jeff

@admin me too!

Same slot, same issue.

Have just set second 5 slots in 11:30 - 16:00 if you want to check functionality?

admin

Jeff

Is it because the charge instruction was sent after the slot had started?

Ooh - interesting. Is that how it works on Giv? If you set/enable a slot shortly after its start time, the whole thing never gets actioned?

What does your Giv log say? Could you have encountered multiple Inverter Timeouts?

admin

Jeff OK - so we dug into this a little more.

Your charge slot wasn't actioned as we got a Giv Response back saying your inverter was Offline. See logs here:

We just need to make sure we correctly log this so you know what's gone on.

Pourl

@admin This afternoons sessions are working ok again.

« Previous Page Next Page »