Today in particular has reminded me of what would be a helpful improvement to the Agile page. I'm sure I've seen this mentioned before but in a quick scan of previous posts I can't find it. Would it be possible to toggle Agile slots from charge, hold, discharge or just normal operation? Today I have had to create numerous discharge schedules in between charging slots to get as much cheap energy throughout the day before dumping it back in the grid. I've had 12 charge slots and 12 discharge slots. I would have liked to also have just held a couple of slots but really couldn't be bothered with resetting the Agile window just for that hour of hold.

Did this get looked at at all? Is this on the list of potential updates?

@"Kevin"#p7788 We will start some experimenting with this, thanks for the nudge.

I was about to make a similar request. When there is a long period of pricing that's well under the fixed 15p export rate, I would love to be able to select (or even better have WW propose) a "harvesting" mode that alternates between import and export for optimum lengths until there's only enough time left to charge back to the target SOC.

@"webmink"#p7854 This would be a good enhancement. I am doing this manually by pre-selecting all slots below 13p then deselecting the most expensive ones (even though below 13p) adding them as exports in the schedule. It takes me about 10 minutes to go through them then verify them (the red arrows showing the exports are really helpful). Starting with no charge (0) I count the slots to add up to 6 by the end (charge = +1, export = -1) and never more than 6 in the middle (7 is a full charge for my batteries). This means I import the maximum at the lowest cost. Finally I set my immersion heater on for the lowest 6 slots to heat my hot water too. In the schedule below I harvested about £5 during the 24 hours (exported 31 kWh some of which was solar) for an import cost of 80p for 32 kWh. A net gain of £4.20 - not bad for 10 minutes work. [URL=https://imgapi.wonderwatt.com/i/LKuWS0J.png][IMG]https://imgapi.wonderwatt.com/i/LKuWS0J.png[/IMG][/URL] 13p = 16.5p x 80%. 16.5p is my export rate and I assume 20% is lost through the batteries.

Having to use Schedules for export and the Agile Scheduler for charging is a bit complicated and trips me up from time to time. The Schedules and Agile can also clash if the windows overlap, with unexpected results. Being able to do charge, export, hold, etc. on a slot by slot basis all from the one Agile scheduler would be great.

@"johalareewi"#p7858 Yep, this is the next biggish change we will roll out. Ability to set export slots from the Agile screen, clearly without any conditional logic and just an assumed 100% discharge/dump.

UI pretty much finalised for this change, we will get the scheduling aspect sorted next week hopefully and then will open it up initially to 2 or 3 users, so shout with your WattID if you're game, cheers! And enjoy the sunshine!

@"admin"#p7922 I'm game: elaborate-routine

@"WindyMiller"#p7923 you got dibs!

Greater functionality of the Agile page.

admin

johalareewi It will run at full discharge rate. Good test case though especially around setting hold back. We'll double check that.

johalareewi

admin I have queued up and export slot during a HOLD window.
Lets see what happens.

admin

WindyMiller Ah, interesting, deleted for you now. We'll tighten that up.

Bit unsure how you did this actually. Any steps to repro exactly?

WindyMiller

admin Deselect it from export view but don't save. Select it from charge view and save. Slot is now both an export and charge slot but shows as an export slot greyed out in export view. Needs clearing again.

Deselecting it in export view allows the slot to be a charge slot even if you don't save the change. Then you end up with it locked.

admin

WindyMiller Excellent, thanks for the repro steps.

Your slot's been cleared btw.

admin

WindyMiller Fixed now as part of v0.5.1116

WindyMiller

admin Verified as fixed.

Kevin

Not really right conditions to fully check today but did run an export slot which run through fine.
Possible suggested tweak... Could the save button work for both export and import rather than have to save on both?
I mean ideally both export and import would be on same page but can understand that might not be possible right now (or at all)

admin

Kevin Could the save button work for both export and import rather than have to save on both?

Yeah sure, we just need to keep track of pending state changes for validation.

Maybe also just one Save button at the bottom for both today & tomorrow?

admin

admin Save button functionality has now been consolidated and simplified on the Agile page.

johalareewi It would be handy to keep the HOLD indication on screen while selecting export slots.

That's also been addressed.

Those updates are available now, as per v0.5.1118.

johalareewi

When I switch to export view, the HOLD indication clears.
It would be handy to keep the HOLD indication on screen while selecting export slots.
What do others think?
Charge:

Export:

Kevin

admin Something gone wrong with the save button. ~~It doesn't save the discharge changes. Tells me that it has been successfully saved but only saves the import changes.~~
Edited: It takes off a discharge change. A new discharge slot it saves as an hour previous!

WindyMiller

admin I like the way this now works. Seeing hold on the export view, a single save and the indication of what you are saving is all good. At the moment I can't think why I might need export schedules at all.

johalareewi

admin Save button functionality has now been consolidated and simplified on the Agile page.

Sweet. Like how the pending changes are thicker so they can be seen.

admin

Kevin Looking into this

admin

Kevin Fixed as per Release 1120.

admin

WindyMiller Excellent, and as usual, let us know if you encounter any issues.

WindyMiller

admin I've just released another benefit of this change is that I no longer need a 5 minute pause between charge and export as they are all done by the same scheduler. Previously I used 5 minutes of idle between charge and export which on a busy night added up to an hour of idle. Now they can usefully be used for more charge or export slots saving even more!

WindyMiller

By the way does the evaluation of slots every 30 minutes and the 30 minute charge/hold/eco/export considerations put a lot more load on your server? In addition should we consider the increase write frequency to our inverter registers? GE have a mode to do with lots of register writes which I haven't enabled. This was added for PREDBAT control which does its evaluation much more frequently.

johalareewi

WindyMiller should we consider the increase write frequency to our inverter registers

Good point. Using this new export functionality, there could be a lot more register writes.

johalareewi

Export during hold worked last night.

johalareewi

Any chance that selected charge slots outside of an agile window can behave like the selected export slots and always fire up without any SOC% tests?

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