We've just rolled out an initial version of Intelligent Octopus Go, enabled for a handful of users. Please DM or drop us a line at labs@wonderwatt.com with your WattID or registered Gmail email address if you would like to try this out.

Exciting. Is it just for compatible cars or chargers though, or for any car or charger?

@"Gazzagreen"#p3146 I'm in the beta if you can you have the tariff I believe it will work as its pulling from the Octopus API and controlling your inverter so has nothing to do with the car or charger. It's found my slots first time so really impressive.

Yes I’m interested please: impassioned-spirit

@"Gazzagreen"#p3146 Not related to car charger control. Mainly verifying the mapped charges for your EV and creating a hold/charge for your solar battery to match the dynamic slots, to prevent your battery draining into the EV.

@"psiloc"#p3148 Enabled for you.

I see. I'm happy on flux atm, but if I was to try this later, what I'm trying to ask is I am able to get the intelligent Go tariff from Octopus? I ask because as far as I understand it, they require a car or a charger they can control or you can't get the tariff. e.g a tesla as they can control the charging on the car, or compatible charger. Is this agreed with octopus to be able to use the WW-tariff with a non-compliant car or charger?

@"Gazzagreen"#p3151 Without a compatible EV - for which they will perform a test charge, I don't think you can get OIG. We simply check the dynamic charge slots that Octopus has assigned to your Octopus account. If you haven't got Octopus Intelligent Go, we won't retrieve any smart charge slots from Octopus when we query your account.

@"Gazzagreen"#p3151 Yep you need a car or charger that is compatible.

I might be getting a (2nd hand) Tesla later this year with Pension money :D

Hi there, impassioned-spirit First usage of IOG last night by plugging my car in and I don't think it quite went to plan! :) [URL=https://imgapi.wonderwatt.com/i/5qtopBZ.png][IMG]https://imgapi.wonderwatt.com/i/5qtopBZh.png[/IMG][/URL] So at first it picked up my smart charge of 23:30 - 06:30 and had a target of 86% at a rate of 33%, which is fine. It then, from somewhere, picked three more half hour blocks and mapped those. The problem is that in between those half hour blocks, the battery was discharged to power the house. This is not only in contradiction to the proper mapped charge but was unnecessary anyway as IOG always has off-peak rates between 23:30 and 05:30 - in fact of course the battery should still have been charging from the grid due to the dismal forecast. I don't know what happened with those additional blocks but if I check my Octopus app, those blocks are shown there right now too, so WW hasn't pulled them out of nowhere. I do know that in reality Octopus was charging my car as per the original mapped charge of 11:30 - 06:30 and this didn't get interrupted. One thing I recall, yesterday when I plugged my car in, the charge target was just 10% additional, and I _think_ it's possible that the original smart charge schedule was these three blocks. I subsequently changed the charge target to be 60% additional, and it mapped the new proper schedule. I wonder if both sets of instructions were still in the API? Is there something you need to be checking to know whether you have the latest schedule? In any case would it be possible to configure WW so that it always "knows" about the basic 23:30 - 05:30 off peak, and only does something with smart charges in addition to that? Love that you're doing this by the way, please don't take any of this as a moan!

Intelligent Octopus Go - limited beta

MrMessy

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I'm not having slot issues with WW or octopus. The slots are picked up within minutes every time. Neither am I having any billing issues, even when no EV charging actually happens, which is becoming more frequent.
I'm fairly certain it's a Zappi coms problem, maybe the Harvii.🤔 Think I'll give MyEnergi a shout and see if they can diagnose it.

ULtiMat3DruMa

I've set this up today first day on IOG. I have a Ohme Epod charger and the schedules appear in the Ohme app, sometimes the those schedules appear in the IOG tab in Wonder Watt but sometimes they don't, not entirely sure why like it did earlier today at 15:00 but not at 19:30. Will test to see tomorrow if I'm being billed correctly, but I'm finding the my Growatt Battery discharging to the car at certain points which I'd rather like to avoid if at all possible.

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ULtiMat3DruMa I'm not sure IOG is compatible with the Ohme pod in the sense that Octopus maps the adhoc slots, which you then see in the Octopus app as mapped charges.

Ultimately, that's what WW uses to work out whether Octopus has assigned cheaper charge slots for EV charging.

ULtiMat3DruMa

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I'm glad to say I think you might be wrong about how Ohme sets up charging, it does appear to influence the octopus API directly and therefore you do get charge slots showing in WW (see screenshot) I think the flaky part is that sometimes when Ohme sets the charge up it just doesnt talk to octopus and thus you get billed at peak rate so if anything WW is a great way to tell if the 2 (Ohme and Octopus) are talking with each other and thus you can be reasonably sure you'll be charged for the offpeak rate when charging on peak. Thanks

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ULtiMat3DruMa Thanks for updating here, that's good news.

Wavy-mother

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Please can you add me onto the IOG beta trial.
Many thanks
James

ID: wavy-mother

Wavy-mother

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Wavy-mother All done for you, cheers!

Wavy-mother

admin

Thanks for adding me on. The fixed IOG slots seem to work well but when I plugged the car in earlier the Octopus charge schedule did not appear in the app even an hour after they were generated. Is there anything I'm doing wrong settings wise?
I'm out in the car again now but I'll check this again when plug back in at home.

wavey-mother

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Wavy-mother It likely just means we didn't get any mapped charges (planned dispatches) from Octopus.

When you plug your EV in, do you see the mapped charges in your Octopus app?

Wavy-mother

admin

Thanks for the fast reply. Yes the sessions appeared in the app a few minutes after plugging in but didn't show in WW. They've been deleted now as I'm away from home in the car. I just wondered if I'd set it up correctly (although the interface seems pretty straight forward).

admin

Wavy-mother There may be a slight delay between when Octopus issue them and when they appear in their API, and also, we check every minute or so.

Looks like the additional 7:00-7:30 adhoc charge slot was picked up from Octopus. At least as of 00:16. (They quite frequently change/update things as supply/demand fluctuates)

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