We've just rolled out an initial version of Intelligent Octopus Go, enabled for a handful of users. Please DM or drop us a line at labs@wonderwatt.com with your WattID or registered Gmail email address if you would like to try this out.

Exciting. Is it just for compatible cars or chargers though, or for any car or charger?

@"Gazzagreen"#p3146 I'm in the beta if you can you have the tariff I believe it will work as its pulling from the Octopus API and controlling your inverter so has nothing to do with the car or charger. It's found my slots first time so really impressive.

Yes I’m interested please: impassioned-spirit

@"Gazzagreen"#p3146 Not related to car charger control. Mainly verifying the mapped charges for your EV and creating a hold/charge for your solar battery to match the dynamic slots, to prevent your battery draining into the EV.

@"psiloc"#p3148 Enabled for you.

I see. I'm happy on flux atm, but if I was to try this later, what I'm trying to ask is I am able to get the intelligent Go tariff from Octopus? I ask because as far as I understand it, they require a car or a charger they can control or you can't get the tariff. e.g a tesla as they can control the charging on the car, or compatible charger. Is this agreed with octopus to be able to use the WW-tariff with a non-compliant car or charger?

@"Gazzagreen"#p3151 Without a compatible EV - for which they will perform a test charge, I don't think you can get OIG. We simply check the dynamic charge slots that Octopus has assigned to your Octopus account. If you haven't got Octopus Intelligent Go, we won't retrieve any smart charge slots from Octopus when we query your account.

@"Gazzagreen"#p3151 Yep you need a car or charger that is compatible.

I might be getting a (2nd hand) Tesla later this year with Pension money :D

Hi there, impassioned-spirit First usage of IOG last night by plugging my car in and I don't think it quite went to plan! :) [URL=https://i.imgur.com/5qtopBZ.png][IMG]https://i.imgur.com/5qtopBZh.png[/IMG][/URL] So at first it picked up my smart charge of 23:30 - 06:30 and had a target of 86% at a rate of 33%, which is fine. It then, from somewhere, picked three more half hour blocks and mapped those. The problem is that in between those half hour blocks, the battery was discharged to power the house. This is not only in contradiction to the proper mapped charge but was unnecessary anyway as IOG always has off-peak rates between 23:30 and 05:30 - in fact of course the battery should still have been charging from the grid due to the dismal forecast. I don't know what happened with those additional blocks but if I check my Octopus app, those blocks are shown there right now too, so WW hasn't pulled them out of nowhere. I do know that in reality Octopus was charging my car as per the original mapped charge of 11:30 - 06:30 and this didn't get interrupted. One thing I recall, yesterday when I plugged my car in, the charge target was just 10% additional, and I _think_ it's possible that the original smart charge schedule was these three blocks. I subsequently changed the charge target to be 60% additional, and it mapped the new proper schedule. I wonder if both sets of instructions were still in the API? Is there something you need to be checking to know whether you have the latest schedule? In any case would it be possible to configure WW so that it always "knows" about the basic 23:30 - 05:30 off peak, and only does something with smart charges in addition to that? Love that you're doing this by the way, please don't take any of this as a moan!

Intelligent Octopus Go - limited beta

JayC

MrMessy
2nd and 3rd Pause Charge would be used in a similar way to your use: send the PV generated electricity straight to the grid. I’d like to sell the morning sun, grab an hour of high power sun for the battery in the middle of the day, send the afternoon sun to the grid.

PeteC

admin Watt ID is recent-cake

admin

PeteC Thanks - odd. We can see that your end schedule isn't being actioned. Looks like the IOG schedule starts but then ends up disappearing, hence it doesn't process the end instruction.

Works fine for a lot of other IOG users.

We'll do some more digging and logging for your account, so we can trace the root cause.

JayC

With the dropping of the sun I have returned to WW Intelligent (IOG) and reduced the EV charging amperage to the lowest option. By doing the latter I am served longer and or more Intelligent slots. This is particularly effective when I am able to execute in the morning. For example I've worked away on Tuesday, plug in Wednesday AM whilst working from home, or Saturday out all morning, home for lunch, plug in.
To ensure I am able to dump the newly discovered abundance of additional Giv charging I have implemented the AIO version of ' @MrMessy Dump XS slots' as shown (decreasing increments of 11%s from an SOC of 66). Tuning will be needed as we learn more: the aim being to ensure benefit even with the occasional evening IOG 30 minute charge.

MrMessy

JayC I think you may need to leave a bit more time between each schedule.
Bear in mind the instructions can be sent up to 5 mins before the start, I wonder if potentially overlapping instructions may mess things up.

PS very naughty dropping the EV charge current.
I'll be doing the same, don't tell anyone.🤫😅

JayC

MrMessy Battery sitting at 63% now (20:15) so I’ll run as is tonight as learning exercise. If necessary increase one minute per run until the optimum is identified. Thank you.

JayC

MrMessy here is a grab of a section of the related Giv log (no filters). Auto adjusted by WW?

MrMessy

JayC so, did that run successfully?
Looks to me like it's set the discharge, then immediately unset it. Or maybe I'm misreading something🤔 (entirely possible, I'm on the M40 😅)

I get this...

J1m

Could I please be added to this Beta?
neat-permission

Cheers!

admin

J1m All done for you, thanks.

JayC

MrMessy It seems they were actioned but then nullified as I'd left on the Eco switch in Advanced. Therefore the results are not clear. I will run again this week without Eco On.

MrMessy

JayC mine's set like this...

If that doesn't do it, I think you need to be leaving a 5 min gap between instructions.

J1m

admin Many thanks! Can I please ask a couple of probably stupid questions that probably have been already answered previously?
Am I right in assuming I no longer have to set a nightly WW house battery charge schedule if the IO feature is in use?

I have an planned export schedule running each evening. If I plug my EV in, creating charging windows during the evening, how does that interact with the running export schedule - does the export stop temporary or fully, or does the export stop the EV charge happening? Thanks in advance!

admin

J1m Am I right in assuming I no longer have to set a nightly WW house battery charge schedule if the IO feature is in use?

Correct, we automatically assign the default IOG slot, whether your car is plugged in or not.

J1m If I plug my EV in, creating charging windows during the evening, how does that interact with the running export schedule - does the export stop temporary or fully, or does the export stop the EV charge happening?

We're not doing anything special around this, so you will end up with possibly conflicting schedules. Best may be that if you plan to plug EV in, toggle your export to inactive.

JayC

J1m Scroll up to 21st September on this thread and you'll find a comprehensive work around by Mr Messy.

MrMessy

J1m I have an planned export schedule running each evening. If I plug my EV in, creating charging windows during the evening, how does that interact with the running export schedule - does the export stop temporary or fully, or does the export stop the EV charge happening? Thanks in advance!

In my experience, smart charging will supersede any export schedules you have set, if they overlap.

Here's one of mine, where the smart charge started at 23:00 (even though the EV didn't actually start charging until 23:29), but you can see it cut short the discharge, which was timed to finish at 23:25

Also, make sure you have this set, otherwise it will dump your battery in to the EV, which I assume you don't want.

J1m

admin Thanks for that, regarding your second answer can I simply use the 'pause all schedules' option to stop my export schedules or would that affect the EV charging as well?

admin

J1m Pause all would affect your IOG schedule too, yes.

J1m

JayC that's great, many thanks!

J1m

I've configured the IO schedule and it's got updated with tonight's Smart Charge of the home battery between 23:30 and 05:30. I've just tried plugging my EV in and Octopus have mapped Charge slots between 23:00 and 07:00, then 07:00 to 11:00 tomorrow. Should any of this information be appearing in the WW schedule, as it isn't there?

admin

J1m Do you see anything in your Octopus Intelligent section in WW under Planned Intelligent charge slots?

J1m

admin Yes, tonight's home battery charge is showing. User ID is neat-permission if needed..

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